Poll: Who here is interested in Buying the New Ford EV Midsize Pickup in 2027

[bartflossom]

I'm apparently the oddball here. I sold my 17 colorado after 6 years when we had that huge peak in used car values and got 24K. 80 Percent of what I paid. I took the money and put it in stocks and grew it to mid 30's waiting on a small ev truck that everyone thought was coming at any moment. After waiting 2 years I figured it would be awhile so I bought a "half ev" in my Mav. But right now I'm excited about the Slate. I really do think it will come to market and the Ford will be my backup if it doesn't. I just need a simple around town vehicle to haul my retired city slicker butt to the big boxes and grab a quarter facecord of wood every winter. I have an easy spot to install charger in garage. I also love it will be all american and direct to buyer. I'm still mad about how long dealers have been gouging on the Mavericks. I imagine it will be the same with the new truck.

 

[OleFordGuy]

Why do you think California has grid problems now? I think that was 25 years ago.

Today, California has more solar and battery storage and generating capacity is about 130% to 150% of demand.

In 2024 25% of all cars sold were full electric. Blended with the older cars still on the road I think the numbers I've seen are that's 11% to 12% of all vehicles.

There's not even a blip on the power grid.
It won't even get interesting until 60-70% of all cars get electric.

ALSO often overlooked- move one power hungry manufacturing company out, and it makes room for 5,000 more EV's.

Move Google out of California and it will make room for millions of EV's.

Google's own search engine says in 2023 Google used 24 terawatt-hours of power.

Assume that is global.
If 10% is California, that = 24 million recharges of a 100 kWh EV.

If 1% is California, that's 2.4 million recharges of a 100 kWh EV.

Goggle's Headquarters is near San Francisco Bay.

Hum, really, 25 years ago ??? I wouldn't argue the point about its getting better, but, Just a quick google search shows the information below just from the first 3-4 links/article off the top that I clicked on, Hence my previous statement of "California's grid issues which are not necessarily isolated or rare" that you didn't seem to care for. Part of my point in that was multiplying that across the whole US. But whatever opinions you have are fine with me, we all have one!

California has experienced several significant power outages in its history, including the massive Southwest Blackout of 2011, which impacted millions. These outages, often triggered by extreme weather and grid vulnerabilities, highlight the state's reliance on power imports and the challenges of maintaining a stable energy supply.​

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California has also experienced numerous other outages due to weather events like wildfires, storms, and extreme temperatures. In 2020, rolling blackouts occurred during a heatwave due to insufficient energy supplies​

The Risk of Power Outages Is Growing
Power outages are on the rise in California. There were 25,281 blackout events in 2019, a 23% increase from 20,598 in 2018. The number of utility customers affected jumped to 28.4 million in 2019, up 50% from 19 million in 2018.​

The "California power company scandal" most notably refers to the California electricity crisis of 2000 - 2001. This crisis involved market manipulation, price gouging, and rolling blackouts due to a combination of factors including deregulation, increased demand, and drought-induced supply shortages​

 

[The Cyber Orange Guy.]

Well, on my case I want a full EV, I barely drive, don't need more than 250-300 miles range just in case, my regular drive is less than 2-8 miles round trip, no range anxiety if I can get 250 miles out of it, I charge home using my solar panels, also love the convenience of powering my home using the truck just in case.

As long I can get a 8-10 year warranty + is equally or more comfy than my maverick, and the price is right I'm pretty much sold. But just in case like others said I gonna wait a bit to se how reliable is the vehicle.

In my opinion 35-45k on something like a lariat model I think is a good price, depending on what it offers.

 

[DLN]

Yes. I love my 2022 Maverick Lariat, by 2027 would be ready to take the leap. Retired now so have some freedom to try a full EV. I believe these are just engineering challenges and like anything we’ll figure it out and ICEs will slowly die out. Think of it, it took 50 years for ICEs to replace horse and buggies and to have the infrastructure we have today. It will just take a few more years.

 

[zen_]

I paid off my Maverick and would like to keep it for at least 5 years (~2029, if we survive that long), but there is about a 98% chance my next vehicle will be an EV. We're at the tipping point where an affordable one with current battery tech makes financial sense, and they are just easier to live with having the single most expensive, complex, noisy, and hard to package component removed.

We'll see though. Walking the fine line of politics, between the datacenter boom and EVs, our country needs a massive increase in base load electricity and investments in a more robust grid, but that doesn't seem to be the current admin's radar at all.

 

[dmopro]

Need two more choices in the poll in order to judge how people really feel:
1. NEVER
2. No Frikken Way

 

[scottjl]

if i only drove around town i'd be quite happy with a EV. but given my driving habits of heading off into the woods where there might be a nearby gas station there definitely aren't any charging stations around EV's just won't work for me. and when we road-trip 6-8 hour drives to go visit family in other states we're not going to stop and charge a couple of times to make the trip when i can fill up my hybrid in 10 minutes.

 

[710-oil-614]

If I owned an EV with 150 mile range my second vehicle on the left, is what I would have to take on any long distance trip. Not what I would call economical or practical unless I'm towing something.
On the other hand a plug-in Maverick with 40-45 mile range coupled with a gas motor for a 450 mi range that would work.

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EV or PHEV are not better suited for your use case.

A PHEV with 45 mile range on a 450mi largely highway trip would be chasing its ass the rest of the 405 miles.

The 2.5L (at least 2025 w hf55) can’t do more than 27mpg when on.

Stick with your Hybrid.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

EV or PHEV are not better suited for your use case.

A PHEV with 45 mile range on a 450mi largely highway trip would be chasing its ass the rest of the 405 miles.

The 2.5L (at least 2025 w hf55) can’t do more than 27mpg when on.

Stick with your Hybrid.

Really, I've owned 2 Chevy Volt's gen 1 & 2.
Bought both in northern California and drove both back to Southern Nevada. No lack of power whatsoever. Even through tehachapi.
Needless to they never were plugged in on the way home.
34 mpg using premium on the Gen 1.
38-40'ish mpg using regular on the Gen 2.

 

[710-oil-614]

Really, I've owned 2 Chevy Volt's gen 1 & 2.
Bought both in northern California and drove both back to Southern Nevada. No lack of power whatsoever. Needless to they never were plugged in on the way home.
34 mpg on the Gen 1 and 38-39 on the Gen 2.

The 2.5L in the Maverick - which is significantly larger than the ICE in your Volt and placed in a significantly less aero platform - can only pull 27mpg at best when on.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

The 2.5L in the Maverick - which is significantly larger than the ICE in your Volt and placed in a significantly less aero platform - can only pull 27mpg at best when on.

That still doesn't handle my main quest.
Which is not having to buy gas for weeks to months, something I enjoyed when I owned the Volts. The engine would automatically start every 6 weeks and run for a couple minutes. As part of fuel maintenance.
Unless I go on a trip then I want to do long distance without stopping or staying tethered to the freeways.

 

[Escapologist]

EV or PHEV are not better suited for your use case.

A PHEV with 45 mile range on a 450mi largely highway trip would be chasing its ass the rest of the 405 miles.

The 2.5L (at least 2025 w hf55) can’t do more than 27mpg when on.

Stick with your Hybrid.

It is surprising what "managing" the PHEV battery will do on the Escape PHEV will do though, but flipping it into EV later mode as soon as you get "settled" on a long leg. It uses the batt down to 80% however soon you turn it on though.

Seems that just a few miles of city bashing each end, or creepy crawly in the middle affects it a lot... when you'd think that's where the hybrid mode does pretty good... yeah, but not with no charge in.

Anyway, there's this 200 mile jaunt we do to the relatives, and turning on EV later as soon as we get on the highway, and flipping it back to EV auto when we get off the other end seems to make a diference between a trip average of 40mpg, just running the batt out, which is gone in 25 miles at highway speed, or 50mpg by using ~10miles, then saving it, then using 5 miles, off, use 5 miles, turn off, turn it on again when we're approx the x miles from home. Done it both ways twice. Doesn't seem it should work like that when you look at city vs hwy miles, but somehow it does.

 

[Timothyd]

I for one will be ordering one on the first day the order banks open.

I guess that like the Maverick there will be XL, XLT, Lariat versions (or whatever they will call them) and I usually don't order the barebones but one step higher.

So just guessing the MSRP price for the one level above the base will be $34,000 plus destination charge which will bring the price to around $36,000 before TT&L.

I have had a Maverick XLT Hybrid since December 2021.
MY2022: December 13, 2021 through August 28, 2023 when it was sold to Carvana
MY2023: September 21, 2023 through present and will keep until one month before delivery of the New Ford EV Midsize Pickup when it too will be sold to Carvana.

It has served it purpose just fine but I do not need it for any long trips as the wife's 2021 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid handles that just fine.

In the 23 months I have owned the 2023 Maverick I only have 9300 miles on it and that included a 2800 mile vacation in 2024.

These are the points that I feel the New Ford EV Midsize Pickup will be better long term than my current Maverick Hybrid.

Lower maintenance costs



Also no trips to the gas station

Most of my trips average about 2 miles and the longest about 25 miles round trip and as seen above I average about 10 miles a day as we are both retired.

Only charging at home at night.

I also like the feature where it can provide power to our home in case of a blackout.

With the idiots running Texas they have done nothing to alleviate the 2021 blackout from happening again and have actually increased the odds with all the Bitcoin mining farms and AI Data centers.

The New Ford EV Midsize Pickup will serve all my needs: Hauling our eBikes (trailer hitch mounted carrier) and the occasional truck bed stuff for our lawn and garden needs.

If I was going to upgrade it would be to a SuperCab Maverick with a 6 foot bed.

 

[710-oil-614]

That still doesn't handle my main quest. Which is not buying gas for weeks to months, something I enjoyed when I own the Volts.
Unless I go on a trip then I want to do long distance without stopping or staying tethered to the freeways.

Well that is fair - you mentioned a 450 mile road trip so that was my baseline. If only doing local then yes PHEV with 40-45 miles of range makes sense especially with a good electrical rate.

 

[dochawk]

I'm pretty sure the Model T didn't run on thoroughbreds still....

no, but it did run on roughly 50 octane!

And I actually toyed with renting a clydesdale to take my '83 cougar another 40 miles when it died at 99,960 . . .

:crackup:

Have to " 82 year old spousal pee stop every 225 miles" anyway!

wow, traveling with a spouse, 225 between stops sounds wonderful!

I would probably be tempted by 150+ range with a range extender motor.

[cough] RamCharger [cough]

Coming soon for 2024 2025 2026

uhh, maybe 2030?

What happens when John forgets to plug the truck in the night before?

Same thing as when he forgets to fill it with gas at the end of his shift.

EV claimed range -------
EV actual real world range. 🤏

So, you're saying that there's something fishy about this?