Poll: Who here is interested in Buying the New Ford EV Midsize Pickup in 2027

[710-oil-614]

Not surprising. With your Real World knowledge/experience with an EV, that eMPG puts a Large Dent in all the marketing & influencers claim of such high savings over our EB & Hybrid Mavericks with an EV. Granted I can see some maintenance expense saved with an EV but my understanding is they EAT the tires designed for EV use so that nulls that $ savings advantage out. My guess is a HUGE number of homes electrical service across the US as a whole would have to have expensive electrical upgrades to support charging at a decent rate beyond the common 120V outlet in most garages or outside receptacles. For my use cases, they all can stick the EV's up where the sun don't shine - especially with todays tech and charging infrastructure

I have a friend with an M3 still and he has always charged off of 120v and he has owned his for 3 years. 1 time he came over to use my wall charger before going to Cincinnati for work.

I had capacity on my 200a panel so I added my own breakers, ran the 240v wire out to my garage and installed the wall charger myself - total cost around $550 but to your point folks probably do not factor that into the TCO or their eMPG calculations.

If my wife was already in her Aviator (or explorer) I'd take a real hard look at trading my Maverick for a Mach E right now - you can get them low miles in the low $20k - I'd be happy to drive one of those around locally at that price.

 

[commadorebob]

While I get the sentiment, I think the whole "electrical infrastructure" thing is overblown. If the grid can handle the addition of 100+ homes (needing to use A/C nonstop from March to October) in a single neighborhood over the course of a year, it can handle me plugging in a truck once a week, or in my case, once a month.

That said, my plan to run wheels off Bruce is still in effect. Maybe by then the infrastructure thing will be worked out....

 

[710-oil-614]

While I get the sentiment, I think the whole "electrical infrastructure" thing is overblown. If the grid can handle the addition of 100+ homes (needing to use A/C nonstop from March to October) in a single neighborhood over the course of a year, it can handle me plugging in a truck once a week, or in my case, once a month.

That said, my plan to run wheels off Bruce is still in effect. Maybe by then the infrastructure thing will be worked out....

I agree with you but it is really the unknown timing and demand of vehicle charging that can create significant unpredictable surge where as homes are relatively easy to predict their energy use.

I only say this because we do not store energy in America - grid operators are constantly trying to balance demand/load against generation.

 

[Bob Hamilton]

Not in 2027, for the following reasons: (a) I never buy until the platform has been around for a few years (b) I'm planning/hoping to get 10 years out of my 2025.

I also have a question: would that compact EV pick-up be body-on-frame or unibody? (After seeing posts with minor dings turning into write-offs, I'd prefer my next pickup to be body-on-frame).

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

Make no mistake charger hopping sucks. I don't care what the influencers try to portray. And at this stage it is still a valid concern that chargers might be down, broken, full, and I have more than once navigated to a charger to find out the business there is closed because it is after hours so you don't even have access to a bathroom. You end up looking for some place local you can walk to while the car is charging, or try holding it while the car charges and then make another stop. Just more negatives than positives by a long shot. The more stops the more trip overhead and time gets eaten. If you have places you have to be this gets old fast.

Geez, how many times do you need to stop to use a RR on your daily drive to work?

No "charger hopping" or "route planning" for daily commuters.
No range anxiety either.
No wasted time either.
Probably a time saver for most people.

A great vacation vehicle? Probably not. But no one is saying they are.

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

While I get the sentiment, I think the whole "electrical infrastructure" thing is overblown. If the grid can handle the addition of 100+ homes (needing to use A/C nonstop from March to October) in a single neighborhood over the course of a year, it can handle me plugging in a truck once a week, or in my case, once a month.

That said, my plan to run wheels off Bruce is still in effect. Maybe by then the infrastructure thing will be worked out....

EV's are just another appliance.
An appliance that takes more power than a TV and less power than a hot tub and about the same power as air conditioning.

 

[jerrisn]

Don't forget sitting around for an hour or longer for a FULL charge.
And there's no telling whether those next Services have any chargers.
In other words you better stay attached to the leash.
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No thank you I have enough anxiety my life without that range anxiety too.

You’ll never sway hardcore electric vehicle (EV) enthusiasts, so it’s best to let them choose what suits them. Many seem content waiting at charging stations, glued to their phones or laptops. As a former/current owner of multiple Chevy Volts, I get the appeal of EVs—it’s all about convenience for me, nothing else. I don’t believe EVs will save the planet; in fact, I think they may have a worse environmental impact. Still, I appreciate their convenience. However, I wouldn’t want to rely on chargers or take an EV on a cross-country trip. If Ford released a plug-in hybrid electric Maverick (PHEV) with at least 100 miles of electric range per charge and the ability to switch to gas like the Volt, I’d consider it. For now, I’m sticking with my 2023 Hybrid XLT.

 

[OleFordGuy]

You’ll never sway hardcore electric vehicle (EV) enthusiasts, so it’s best to let them choose what suits them. Many seem content waiting at charging stations, glued to their phones or laptops. As a former/current owner of multiple Chevy Volts, I get the appeal of EVs—it’s all about convenience for me, nothing else. I don’t believe EVs will save the planet; in fact, I think they may have a worse environmental impact. Still, I appreciate their convenience. However, I wouldn’t want to rely on chargers or take an EV on a cross-country trip. If Ford released a plug-in hybrid electric Maverick (PHEV) with at least 100 miles of electric range per charge and the ability to switch to gas like the Volt, I’d consider it. For now, I’m sticking with my 2023 Hybrid XLT.

Very good post imo. Different strokes for different folks, no problem with that. All should be free to choose the propulsion method they fill is best for them. The pigeon holeing concept previously envisioning all into a single choice would have been like starting another civil war

 

[24hrsun]

Geez, how many times do you need to stop to use a RR on your daily drive to work?

No "charger hopping" or "route planning" for daily commuters.
No range anxiety either.
No wasted time either.
Probably a time saver for most people.

A great vacation vehicle? Probably not. But no one is saying they are.

Local is fine in an EV. Road tripping not so much. It is probably best utilized in a 2 vehicle solution where one is capable of road tripping and have the EV for your commute, grocery getting. But I certainly wouldn't spend a lot of money for a commuter grocery getter either.

If you expect the vehicle you buy to do it all like an ICE then expect the compromises. That is not what people expect, and that is why short range EVs are a hard sell.

If you want a short range commuter EV you can buy hugely depreciated used EVs that will fit the bill without spending big bucks.

Once people figure out 150 miles does not mean it will actually go 150 miles in regular use that is when things get sour. Rated range is not real world use range. "But grandma only lives 100 miles away" and then you realize you can't get there on a full charge unless the weather is good, you slow down, and it isn't winter time. Then you have to figure out are there chargers near grandmas? How far away are the chargers? Can I get enough charge on 120v plug at grandmas to get me enough range to get me back out to a charger? Suddenly things come into perspective.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

If I owned an EV with 150 mile range my second vehicle on the left, is what I would have to take on any long distance trip. Not what I would call economical or practical unless I'm towing something.
On the other hand a plug-in Maverick with 40-45 mile range coupled with a gas motor for a 450 mi range that would work.

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[OleFordGuy]

While I get the sentiment, I think the whole "electrical infrastructure" thing is overblown. If the grid can handle the addition of 100+ homes (needing to use A/C nonstop from March to October) in a single neighborhood over the course of a year, it can handle me plugging in a truck once a week, or in my case, once a month.

That said, my plan to run wheels off Bruce is still in effect. Maybe by then the infrastructure thing will be worked out....

Hum, that might be considered a little overly positive concept to some, some not. Location and time is a factor naturally, 1 vehicle a week/month, yep negligible, but the whole EV concept is not the simple addition of 100 homes, 1 vehicle, IMO, the concept was/is, the whole country. Just look at one state - California's grid issues which are not necessarily isolated or rare. Multiply that over the whole US aging infrastructure . That relays a different perspective imo. Just a thought and my 2 cents

https://www.bloomenergy.com/bloom-energy-outage-map/

 

[24hrsun]

If I owned an EV with 150 mile range my second vehicle on the left, is what I would have to take on any long distance trip. Not what I would call economical or practical unless I'm towing something.

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Similar situation here. My fall back is an HD Ram and as you said it isn't economical. Sometimes when you need a truck, you need a truck. The rest of the time drive something economical and gets the job done. Right tool for the job. So far the Maverick is a better fit what what I am doing than the Tesla.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

I for one will be ordering one on the first day the order banks open.

I guess that like the Maverick there will be XL, XLT, Lariat versions (or whatever they will call them) and I usually don't order the barebones but one step higher.

So just guessing the MSRP price for the one level above the base will be $34,000 plus destination charge which will bring the price to around $36,000 before TT&L.

I have had a Maverick XLT Hybrid since December 2021.
MY2022: December 13, 2021 through August 28, 2023 when it was sold to Carvana
MY2023: September 21, 2023 through present and will keep until one month before delivery of the New Ford EV Midsize Pickup when it too will be sold to Carvana.

It has served it purpose just fine but I do not need it for any long trips as the wife's 2021 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid handles that just fine.

In the 23 months I have owned the 2023 Maverick I only have 9300 miles on it and that included a 2800 mile vacation in 2024.

These are the points that I feel the New Ford EV Midsize Pickup will be better long term than my current Maverick Hybrid.

Lower maintenance costs



Also no trips to the gas station

Most of my trips average about 2 miles and the longest about 25 miles round trip and as seen above I average about 10 miles a day as we are both retired.

Only charging at home at night.

I also like the feature where it can provide power to our home in case of a blackout.

With the idiots running Texas they have done nothing to alleviate the 2021 blackout from happening again and have actually increased the odds with all the Bitcoin mining farms and AI Data centers.

The New Ford EV Midsize Pickup will serve all my needs: Hauling our eBikes (trailer hitch mounted carrier) and the occasional truck bed stuff for our lawn and garden needs.

Steve,
Thank you for adding the Poll
Pretty easy.

 

[Propane Burning Man]

The outdated energy grid is a whole different story. But the new data centers and AI is being called the monster that ate the power grid by some in the know. Amazon and Meta have been buying power plants scheduled to shut down (because they are so old) to power their data centers because there is NOT the energy available that they need. Energy shortages is real and it will get worse before it gets better. And yes, location makes a huge difference.

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

Hum, that might be considered a little overly positive concept to some, some not. Location and time is a factor naturally, 1 vehicle a week/month, yep negligible, but the whole EV concept is not the simple addition of 100 homes, 1 vehicle, IMO, the concept was/is, the whole country. Just look at one state - California's grid issues which are not necessarily isolated or rare. Multiply that over the whole US aging infrastructure . That relays a different perspective imo. Just a thought and my 2 cents

https://www.bloomenergy.com/bloom-energy-outage-map/

Why do you think California has grid problems now? I think that was 25 years ago.

Today, California has more solar and battery storage and generating capacity is about 130% to 150% of demand.

In 2024 25% of all cars sold were full electric. Blended with the older cars still on the road I think the numbers I've seen are that's 11% to 12% of all vehicles.

There's not even a blip on the power grid.
It won't even get interesting until 60-70% of all cars get electric.

ALSO often overlooked- move one power hungry manufacturing company out, and it makes room for 5,000 more EV's.

Move Google out of California and it will make room for millions of EV's.

Google's own search engine says in 2023 Google used 24 terawatt-hours of power.

Assume that is global.
If 10% is California, that = 24 million recharges of a 100 kWh EV.

If 1% is California, that's 2.4 million recharges of a 100 kWh EV.

Goggle's Headquarters is near San Francisco Bay.