Poll: Who here is interested in Buying the New Ford EV Midsize Pickup in 2027

[colinl]

What they have discovered is that when you 100% charge them they degrade just like NMC. Temp and high SOC degrade them just as badly. That is why quietly everyone who sells a LFP battery in EVs has changed the guidance to only top charge infrequently now.

that's not at all what they do. they just limit battery usage to 20-80% so it's operating within the best performance and endurance range.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

Wow

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Seems like an EV Maverick will sell just as terribly as the F150 lightning.

 

[TheSEARCH]

EV's are just another appliance.
An appliance that takes more power than a TV and less power than a hot tub and about the same power as air conditioning.

I don't know what exactly an EV takes BUT friend had 220 installed for his Tesla 3. He was told use a 50 amp breaker. That is WAY more than AC uses if it needs a 50 amp breaker . Plus AC compressor is on and off were charging EV is constant. So I think your off in comparison to central air.

As far as grid not real worried BUT like I said mid size ford EV pickup wont be 30 k. My bet IF it comes out 40 to start in XL version .

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

I don't know what exactly an EV takes BUT friend had 220 installed for his Tesla 3. He was told use a 50 amp breaker. That is WAY more than AC uses if it needs a 50 amp breaker . Plus AC compressor is on and off were charging EV is constant. So I think your off in comparison to central air.

As far as grid not real worried BUT like I said mid size ford EV pickup wont be 30 k. My bet IF it comes out 40 to start in XL version .

There is no standard charging power.
Only a maximum charging power.
40 amps is usually the maximum for home use.

You can also use 4 amps.
Totally up to you.

32 amps is the #1 most commonly used.
24 amps is probably #2 most common.

You also always upsize the circuit and breaker.

Charge 12 amps on a 15A
Charge 16 amps on a 20A
Charge 24 amps on a 30A
Charge 32 amps on a 40A
Charge 40 amps on a 50A

I shouldn't need to spell it out, but on advice from another user I will...
It is assumed proper wire size goes along with these circuits, almost always done by a professional, and in some jurisdictions a licensed electrician is required. Majority of people don't DIY but a few do.

The nice thing about EV's is they will "take" anything you give them. Therefore just about any plug in any "port" will do.

Example: input voltage can be anything from 88 VAC to 266 VAC
and amperage can be 1 amp to 50 amps. (Early models maybe 32A max.). The on board rectifiers are that flexible. Most are 60 Hz / 50 Hz flexible too.

Miles = 4 miles per kWh for small cars
3 miles per kWh for large cars
2.5 miles per kWh for trucks

 

[colinl]

Wow

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Seems like an EV Maverick will sell just as terribly as the F150 lightning.

those yes votes will decrease when they see the price compared to a hybrid maverick.

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

those yes votes will decrease when they see the price compared to a hybrid maverick.

And yet many will put in $2000 stereos to listen to the same music I do.

 

[24hrsun]

that's not at all what they do. they just limit battery usage to 20-80% so it's operating within the best performance and endurance range.

Not with LFP. You have to periodically charge them to 100%. The BMS doesn't know what the actual SOC is until you 100% charge them.

For a normal NMC, NCA battery you are advised to keep the daily maximum charge at 80% or less. Dr Dahn will tell you less is more.

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

Too add to the above:

When you own an EV it can predict how long it will take to recharge.

And I'm on board with the 20% to 80% routine. But say it gets "off" by half a percent each cycle (and it does).

After 30 discharge-charge cycles, your battery meter can be off 15%.

So when you finally want a 100% charge, say right before a big trip, getting to 100% is going to take longer than the computer predicts.

Usually not an issue to take 8:45 to recharge vs. 8:00 predicted. But it does happen from "SOC"'drift.

Our hybrids will have SOC drift too.
It's just not as important and even less noticeable in a hybrid compared to an EV.

It will have to correct and balance the pack in Mav Hybrids too. I'm not sure how or when it does this.

The first generation Ford hybrids would charge the battery to 100% once every 10,000 miles. Crude. But effective.

 

[huunvubu]

Wow


Seems like an EV Maverick will sell just as terribly as the F150 lightning.

Is it 2027 already

The poll is limited to Existing Maverick owners or followers as this is a Maverick Forum

Current vote count is 140 with 57 voting Yes or Maybe which is 40.7% so interest is strong here.

Also there will never be an EV Maverick (can't compete with the 2027 EV truck) and probably never a PHEV Maverick because of the additional cost.

The F150 Lightning (large) is not in the same category with the Maverick (small) nor the 2027 EV truck (mid-size) and certainly not in the same price zone.

F150 Pro (low end) starts at $49,780 and the XLT starts at $63,345.

The New Ford 2027 EV Truck is $30,000 for the low end. That is $19,780 or 34% lower price.

The 2025 Ford Maverick XL Hybrid starts at $28,145 which is only 6.6% less than the Ford 2027 EV Truck so yes I do expect that it will sell well.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

those yes votes will decrease when they see the price compared to a hybrid maverick.

No kidding.

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[huunvubu]

those yes votes will decrease when they see the price compared to a hybrid maverick.

How So ??

The 2025 Ford Maverick XL Hybrid starts at $28,145 which is only 6.6% less than the Ford 2027 EV.

I have a 2023 Ford Maverick XLT Hybrid and it will be sold when I receive the New Ford EV Truck in 2027.

The 2025 Ford Maverick XLT Hybrid starts at $30,645.

My YES vote is solid.

 

[710-oil-614]

Wow

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Seems like an EV Maverick will sell just as terribly as the F150 lightning.

I keep watching the F-150 lightning values drop like a cinder block tied to a dead body.

Another year or so - I may pick one up for $20-25k.

 

[Escapologist]

Though from look of preliminary drawings a lot of yeses might bail when they realise that due to putting cab forward for packaging it's gonna look like a sawn off minivan in the flesh ... possibly a Chevy uplander LWB cut off at the C pillar.

 

[24hrsun]

Though from look of preliminary drawings a lot of yeses might bail when they realise that due to putting cab forward for packaging it's gonna look like a sawn off minivan in the flesh ... possibly a Chevy uplander LWB cut off at the C pillar.

Or they figure out 150 miles of rated range really isn't 150 miles... Once you bump into reality perspective changes.

 

[TheSEARCH]

There is no standard charging power.
Only a maximum charging power.
40 amps is usually the maximum for home use.

You can also use 4 amps.
Totally up to you.

32 amps is the #1 most commonly used.
24 amps is probably #2 most common.

You also always upsize the breaker.

Charge 12 amps on a 15A breaker.
Charge 16 amps on a 20A breaker.
Charge 24 amps on a 30A
Charge 32 amps on a 40A
Charge 40 amps on a 50A

The nice thing about EV's is they will "take" anything you give them. Therefore just about any plug in any "port" will do.

Example: input voltage can be anything from 88 VAC to 266 VAC
and amperage can be 1 amp to 50 amps. (Early models maybe 32A max.). The on board rectifiers are that flexible. Most are 60 Hz / 50 Hz flexible too.

Miles = 4 miles per kWh for small cars
3 miles per kWh for large cars
2.5 miles per kWh for trucks

All true BUT to charge a 60 kw battery at 220V and 40 amp still is about 6 hours time. So sure it can charge slower BUT take excessive amount of time . BUT for over night 30 would be okay at 10 hours.

Now most wont let the battery get below 10 percent and most wont charge past 80 percent for longer battery life. But most new EV come with 80 plus KW batteries now so that 60 KW is typical charge when your down to 10 percent . The short range Lightening battery is 98 KW

My whole point was its A LOT of power. More than any house hold appliance i am familiar with.