Poll: Who here is interested in Buying the New Ford EV Midsize Pickup in 2027

[MakinDoForNow]

The F-150 lightning is built for the same use as a regular four-wheel drive F-150. The scared plate underneath the battery is tough. And it's able to withstand reasonable off-roading. It's pretty hard to damage the battery . Yes, you should use common sense just that you should in any vehicle. But you don't have to baby them. A lot of the information out there is not accurate. And a lot of the fears are overblown. Is an EV perfect in every situation? Of course not. But it can be a viable option in many conditions especially if the purchase price becomes competitive. Will an electric vehicle be totaled simply because the battery is damaged? No. Of course as the vehicle becomes older that becomes a possibility. But today's vehicles can be totaled by a collision that deploys the airbags wants the vehicle becomes old. From what I am understanding, in most cases the insurance rate on a lightning it's not that much different than the insurance on a normal f150. Maybe it's a little more, but it's not crazy expensive like some would have you believe. People should shop around for the best deal just like they do for a normal vehicle when they are buying insurance

It's all in the underwriters assessment of the probability of internal battery damage. Perhaps the adjuster would be allowed to replace the battery but the extra expense could push into totaled. Repairs are incredibly expensive these days. My 2022 lariat hybrid had an impact on drivers side rear fender. Did not touch rear door but door had an edge chip in paint about 1/16th inch or less. Due to availability issues of the first edition decal on bottom of door I had body shop blend paint to the edge of decal. (Only decal that could be found was on eBay for $2k asking). No interior damage to bed but repair required welding which damaged the OEM spray in liner ($1600 for towing 40 miles to/from ford approved body shop to liner respray along with respray). It did get tail light and broke ear or tab off plastic bumper cover. Tire was replaced due to sidewall bruise and it cost $120 to have rim checked out, which showed no damage. Cost to at fault drivers insurance totaled $12722.nn + 7 weeks car rental + $2140.00 diminished value. The diminished value acceptance did include an all inclusive release for any undetected damage including liability issues related. I was afraid to ask for more diminished value since the insurance company's out of pocket was already over 50% over KBB Retail on my Maverick.

 

[JohnCondren1933]

Same here!
I might also look at a PHEV Maverick plug in electric with a powertrain of a small gas engine used for running the generator only,

but for anything more than a commuter in town, I am not doing EVs - & if I was I would pick the one with far & away the largest most reliable fast charging network, Tesla - I sure as heck am not spending anything within 20% of Tesla Model 3 money on a Ford nameplate, Lincoln maybe but a $45,000 Ford labelled minitruck?

Automags have been desperately trying to demonstrate the ability to run an EV on road trips not using Tesla charging stations, and its gone from "complete disaster, stranded, broken cables, powered off during business hours" to "its sorta kinda possible with these mobile emergency charging stations that wil sit around for 30 minutes recharging you & charge you $300 for the service".

I travel alot, EVs are simply a non-starter for me. Not to mention range that can drop 60% when a cold front comes in, not fun to wake up to on a vacation hideaway.

Pass, though I might be interested in a Plug-in Hybrid. Mainly because I could plug it in at work, Power Plant.

Not interested in planning travel around being able to stop and plug my car in to charge.

 

[MaverRick]

I tried going all electric with the MachE but ended up selling it back to Ford due to lack of confidence in the charging infrastructure! Even with the access to Tesla’s network I would be hesitant to try it again!!

 

[TheSEARCH]

The F-150 lightning is built for the same use as a regular four-wheel drive F-150. The scared plate underneath the battery is tough. And it's able to withstand reasonable off-roading. It's pretty hard to damage the battery . Yes, you should use common sense just that you should in any vehicle. But you don't have to baby them. A lot of the information out there is not accurate. And a lot of the fears are overblown. Is an EV perfect in every situation? Of course not. But it can be a viable option in many conditions especially if the purchase price becomes competitive. Will an electric vehicle be totaled simply because the battery is damaged? No. Of course as the vehicle becomes older that becomes a possibility. But today's vehicles can be totaled by a collision that deploys the airbags wants the vehicle becomes old. From what I am understanding, in most cases the insurance rate on a lightning it's not that much different than the insurance on a normal f150. Maybe it's a little more, but it's not crazy expensive like some would have you believe. People should shop around for the best deal just like they do for a normal vehicle when they are buying insurance

After watching this not so sure . Yes Canada but I wouldn't be surprised if it starts happening in the USA more too. Risk aversion

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

hmmm folks using their trucks for truck stuff you know like Towing (haha range cut in half)(towing your snow machine in the winter time range severely limited due to cold) or a little off-roading. Doesn't bode well for owning an EV truck.
Queue up the folks who maintain that only a few people use their trucks for work, towing or off road. Problem is. When there are only EV trucks left because the powers that be mandate it. You're stuck. EV's Suck. Give me an ICE hybrid OR a plug-in hybrid truck.

Good bye Ford Lightning??



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[Darryl]

It's all in the underwriters assessment of the probability of internal battery damage. Perhaps the adjuster would be allowed to replace the battery but the extra expense could push into totaled. Repairs are incredibly expensive these days. My 2022 lariat hybrid had an impact on drivers side rear fender. Did not touch rear door but door had an edge chip in paint about 1/16th inch or less. Due to availability issues of the first edition decal on bottom of door I had body shop blend paint to the edge of decal. (Only decal that could be found was on eBay for $2k asking). No interior damage to bed but repair required welding which damaged the OEM spray in liner ($1600 for towing 40 miles to/from ford approved body shop to liner respray along with respray). It did get tail light and broke ear or tab off plastic bumper cover. Tire was replaced due to sidewall bruise and it cost $120 to have rim checked out, which showed no damage. Cost to at fault drivers insurance totaled $12722.nn + 7 weeks car rental + $2140.00 diminished value. The diminished value acceptance did include an all inclusive release for any undetected damage including liability issues related. I was afraid to ask for more diminished value since the insurance company's out of pocket was already over 50% over KBB Retail on my Maverick.

At the end of the day I suspect you probably won't buy an EV regardless. And that's ok. I can usually tell based on the fact that a person who won't buy an EV usually focuses only on worst case scenarios. Those who LIVE EV's only focus on best case scenarios. In both cases, any scenario to the contrary is met with a "yes but". And they tend to not just focus on why they think it's a bad idea for themselves. But they often try to make the case of why NOBODY should get one

 

[Darryl]

I live in Florida, and I fear the day when we have to evacuate due to storms coming, and power outages, when EV's start running out of charge, blocking all roads to safer places north. It happened before there were EV's, and they will definitely block roads while stranded for hours without moving while running A/C, radios, cell phone chargers etc.

Truth be told, when there is gridlock, EV's are better than a gas vehicle because AC uses very little power. With a gasoline fueled vehicle, you are wasting fuel by running an entire engine just to run the AC. Also, With an EV, you could shut the AC off if you choose to. And even less power will be consumed in gridlock conditions. You'd then be only using significant power when the truck is actually moving. . Cell phones use virtually no power. Remember you can talk for hours on a 5,000 mA battery. So they're basically a non issue. The greatest concern would be the same as with gas vehicles: people ignoring the warning and waiting until the last minute to charge their vehicles. The same as they do with gasoline cars. Advantage: as long as there is power available, you can charge at your house and don't have to try to get to a charger like you have to get to a gas station before leaving town. Disadvantage: if you don't have home charging, lines will be longer at fast chargers because an EV takes longer to charge.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

At the end of the day I suspect you probably won't buy an EV regardless. And that's ok. I can usually tell based on the fact that a person who won't buy an EV usually focuses only on worst case scenarios. Those who LIVE EV's only focus on best case scenarios. In both cases, any scenario to the contrary is met with a "yes but". And they tend to not just focus on why they think it's a bad idea for themselves. But they often try to make the case of why NOBODY should get one

Not withstanding that I will be 83 on the first day of spring in 2026 and might own my last two vehicles both 2022 hybrid mavericks. One being a lariat with 49k miles plus an XLT lux pkg for backup convenience with 6200 miles. I have experienced issues with my 100% lifetime ownership of gasoline powered vehicles. One requiring trade in replacement 2200 miles from home. One an almost new 12v dying requiring ten block tow to shop. Etc, etc. Since I am out of warranty on my hybrids and in fear of my never failed to start mavericks due to 12v maintainer needs, I am considering asking my most liked remote ford tech to install a second 12v which can be charged and held at 12v. Then automatically have batteries switch periodically (monthly?) so the other battery can rest. EV with 250 mile range would be a real $$ saver with my $0.11 co-op, after annual profit rebate. Note: the annual oil changes on my "backup" hybrid cost $0.054 per mile.. A single $250 solar panel would keep a "backup" EV on the road forever.

 

[Timothyd]

I was thinking more about people that needed to keep transportation costs as low as possible. People considering an EV to save money.

Not people that can afford five cars.
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Hmmmm. Wonder how much I'd save. My XLT was fairly cheap, getting upper 40s mpg, electricity costs are high here in crappy Illinois.

 

[Timothyd]

Did you really keep it at 100 percent/? Tesla and many others say to keep it at 80 percent on a regular basis for longer battery life.

They are only able, for battery health, to charge it to 80%. Same as my phone, tablet and any other 'smart' device. So, effectively, he is charging to 100%.

 

[TheSEARCH]

Truth be told, when there is gridlock, EV's are better than a gas vehicle because AC uses very little power. With a gasoline fueled vehicle, you are wasting fuel by running an entire engine just to run the AC. Also, With an EV, you could shut the AC off if you choose to. And even less power will be consumed in gridlock conditions. You'd then be only using significant power when the truck is actually moving. . Cell phones use virtually no power. Remember you can talk for hours on a 5,000 mA battery. So they're basically a non issue. The greatest concern would be the same as with gas vehicles: people ignoring the warning and waiting until the last minute to charge their vehicles. The same as they do with gasoline cars. Advantage: as long as there is power available, you can charge at your house and don't have to try to get to a charger like you have to get to a gas station before leaving town. Disadvantage: if you don't have home charging, lines will be longer at fast chargers because an EV takes longer to charge.

If I was in some major traffic backup I would much rather be in my Hybrid Mav than any EV. If by the unlikely chance i ran low on gas since the gas engine would hardly ever run in bumper to bumper I could most likely find some or even have some in a can in bed. Straight up gas car then no.

 

[Cherokee]

Back in the 80’s a regular guy that delivered auto parts for his dad’s store bought a forklift electric motor, a controller, bunch of 4 gage red and black wire. A welding torch abd and a box of rods.
He took the engine and all its related systems, gas tank, radiator, etc out and took the bed off. Left the 5 speed gear box in.
BUT, it pretty much stayed in third gear in town.
He had to beef up the suspension to handle the fourteen led acid deep cycle 105 amp hour batteries.

Total cost was $6,000 plus the S-10 pick up that had a dying engine anyways plus 130 hours of design and assembly.
The bed was obviously raised up just a bit.

The cool stuff:
Bed tilted for battery access,
Open the fuel door and pull out the spring tension extension cord to charge it with the on board charger, it was big, sat in the bed.

He’d leave home in the AM fully charged, go 15 miles to work and plug in.
In and out all day charging between runs while working in the store,
About 150 miles a day, plus the 30 miles to and from home.
Trucks cargo limit was 800 pounds because of the batteries and added steel to hold them under the bed. He hardly ever had more than 300 pounds of parts in it on his delivery route.

Top speed 70 mph,
Range on a charge with no additional charging was 90 miles in city traffic but only 70 on the highway, pushing wind.
He’d burn up a set of motor brushes every 4,500 miles.
A set was $12 and took thirty minutes to install with only two hand tools.

Cool huh !

Of course they had a gas truck as back up.
Again the curse of EV, limited range makes for the need of a stand by gas vehicle.

If I remember right the Fork lift motor and controller was used and he got both for $1800

 

[Red Eyes - Wide Shut]

Back in the 80’s a regular guy that delivered auto parts for his dad’s store bought a forklift electric motor, a controller, bunch of 4 gage red and black wire. A welding torch abd and a box of rods.
He took the engine and all its related systems, gas tank, radiator, etc out and took the bed off. Left the 5 speed gear box in.
BUT, it pretty much stayed in third gear in town.
He had to beef up the suspension to handle the fourteen led acid deep cycle 105 amp hour batteries.

Total cost was $6,000 plus the S-10 pick up that had a dying engine anyways plus 130 hours of design and assembly.
The bed was obviously raised up just a bit.

The cool stuff:
Bed tilted for battery access,
Open the fuel door and pull out the spring tension extension cord to charge it with the on board charger, it was big, sat in the bed.

He’d leave home in the AM fully charged, go 15 miles to work and plug in.
In and out all day charging between runs while working in the store,
About 150 miles a day, plus the 30 miles to and from home.
Trucks cargo limit was 800 pounds because of the batteries and added steel to hold them under the bed. He hardly ever had more than 300 pounds of parts in it on his delivery route.

Top speed 70 mph,
Range on a charge with no additional charging was 90 miles in city traffic but only 70 on the highway, pushing wind.
He’d burn up a set of motor brushes every 4,500 miles.
A set was $12 and took thirty minutes to install with only two hand tools.

Cool huh !

Of course they had a gas truck as back up.
Again the curse of EV, limited range makes for the need of a stand by gas vehicle.

If I remember right the Fork lift motor and controller was used and he got both for $1800

I've seen shopping carts modified and with 12v battery and starter to drive them and raced. Oh boy, the first mini electric vehicle. Only problem was that the foot brake was your foot.

 

[Escapologist]

Cool, yeah it was a popular platform to do homebrew electric, and the second best thing you could do to an S10/15

 

[Red Eyes - Wide Shut]

Cool, yeah it was a popular platform to do homebrew electric, and the second best thing you could do to an S10/15

What was the first best thing? Sell and get a Toyota or Mazda