Poll: Who here is interested in Buying the New Ford EV Midsize Pickup in 2027

[Darryl]

Going to disagree with that puddle statement. More like dumb driver trying to go through DEEP water, puddle NO WAY. . BUT there are many videos on youtube with road debris damaging battery on underside of EV car. If its dented is all it takes. So the risk is far greater on a EV than you believe .

As an auto mechanic I've seen my share of engines and transmissions destroyed because of something hitting the oil pan . Those are major expenses too. While any freak accident CAN happen most batteries are well protected and are not damaged by the average road hazard, what CAN happen vs what actually happens are often very different. If a person is uncomfortable and scared of an EV, I don't think they should get one. But if they feel as ease, then they shouldn't hesitate to get one if it suits their needs and the charging infrastructure is there for them.

 

[LSchicago]

Love my Hybrid,but will take a good look at the new EV truck and Maverick van when they come out. No interest in a PHEV Maverick though.

 

[TheSEARCH]

It's just an anecdotal comparison, but I actually have heard first hand of an engine being hydrolocked from a puddle drive through (cold air intake, river fording, I don't know).

You do realize that most ICE vehicles also have an oil pan and transmission exposed to the underside that could be damaged by the same force that would dent an EV battery, and yet it's something no one ever thinks about unless they actually do extreme off-roading? Your vehicle also has an EV battery bolted on to the bottom that is protected by the metal casing, a metal bar, and a splash guard.

It's not really an engineering challenge to protect a battery sufficiently for normal driving at any rate. My only real safety concerns are the weight of monster EVs like the cybertruck on the road in collisions /w normal vehicles or pedestrians, which is being improved with vehicles like this new Ford pickup that isn't going to have massive battery. I also worry somewhat about the long term reliability of vehicles as they age if owners start doing backyard fixes to bypass faulty battery control modules, or other fault states that increase the risk of battery fires (an actual safety concern).

Granted small risk but it does happen MAINLY because of the HUGE size of the battery . I watched a video of guy changing out a Chevy bolt battery It was basically almost the entire underside of the car.Were an oil pan is rather small. Not sure how tough these EV battery cases really are. A small dent and a dealer will say its toast. I had no idea about it until seeing more about it online. IHow much is this risk hard to say but its their.

Oh and FORGET about off roading with an EV . granted most wouldn't do it. That would be suicide for your battery. It is a truck after all.

 

[TheSEARCH]

As an auto mechanic I've seen my share of engines and transmissions destroyed because of something hitting the oil pan . Those are major expenses too. While any freak accident CAN happen most batteries are well protected and are not damaged by the average road hazard, what CAN happen vs what actually happens are often very different. If a person is uncomfortable and scared of an EV, I don't think they should get one. But if they feel as ease, then they shouldn't hesitate to get one if it suits their needs and the charging infrastructure is there for them.

I worked as a mechanic at chevy dealer for many years. I never saw an oil pan punctured only dented once. . I never saw an engine take in water UNLESS it was driven into deep water. Maybe depends on if you live near a place you see a lot of off roading. I guess it depends on location a lot. Friend of mind moved to Alberta Canada and broken windshields are every where. She already cracked hers in 6 month their.

Granted it is a low risk for battery being dented but it is still their. No idea if insurance would pay the bill. As you know the EV battery tend to be huge and cover almost the entire underside of car. I watched a video of Chevy Bolt battery change, it was HUGE>

Another note ::: I have seen the comparison of cost of owner ship and when you ad in the resale value which is rather low on EV's plus added initial cost the ownership cost is lower with gas still. BUT hey lets see if the cost is really 30 K like that say right now, For me that would be 28 K as NY gives 2 grand off if you buy an EV. Will see.

 

[zen_]

Granted small risk but it does happen MAINLY because of the HUGE size of the battery . I watched a video of guy changing out a Chevy bolt battery It was basically almost the entire underside of the car.Were an oil pan is rather small. Not sure how tough these EV battery cases really are. A small dent and a dealer will say its toast. I had no idea about it until seeing more about it online. IHow much is this risk hard to say but its their.

Oh and FORGET about off roading with an EV . granted most wouldn't do it. That would be suicide for your battery. It is a truck after all.

You're correct that the battery pack does cover most of the underside of the vehicle, but with a protective cover, this is a total non-issue for 99.99% of drivers. Look under your vehicle now, or a vehicle with no splash guards, and there's all kinds of stuff bolted to the bottom completely unprotected that you never think about.

Once the battery units settle into a few standard configurations and the saturation of EVs is greater, I can promise you that there will be facilities all over the place that will refurbish damaged and worn out EV battery packs pretty cheaply too. Compared to rebuilding an ICE which requires a lot of training, experience, and tooling to be done correctly (and many can't be anyway), it doesn't require a whole lot to do.

 

[Darryl]

I worked as a mechanic at chevy dealer for many years. I never saw an oil pan punctured only dented once. . I never saw an engine take in water UNLESS it was driven into deep water. Maybe depends on if you live near a place you see a lot of off roading. I guess it depends on location a lot. Friend of mind moved to Alberta Canada and broken windshields are every where. She already cracked hers in 6 month their.

Granted it is a low risk for battery being dented but it is still their. No idea if insurance would pay the bill. As you know the EV battery tend to be huge and cover almost the entire underside of car. I watched a video of Chevy Bolt battery change, it was HUGE>

Another note ::: I have seen the comparison of cost of owner ship and when you ad in the resale value which is rather low on EV's plus added initial cost the ownership cost is lower with gas still. BUT hey lets see if the cost is really 30 K like that say right now, For me that would be 28 K as NY gives 2 grand off if you buy an EV. Will see.

You've never seen a busted oil pan because although it happens enough for me to have seen it. MOST mechanics have not and will never see one. Likewise, although some mechanics will witness a battery that was damaged by hitting something underneath the vehicle, it's, likely that MOST will never see it because it's not common. Will insurance cover it? Of course. Providing you have comprehensive collision just like they'd cover the damage if you destroyed your 12 volt battery as part of the damage in a collision. Just like they cover oil pan or transmission damage if you ran over a Rock in the road. And if someone else is at fault, their liability will cover the damage. And if the damage to the vehicle is approximately 80% of the cost of the value, they'll total it just like any other. The rules don't change because it's an EV. It's possible that they'll pay for a used or reconditioned battery just like some may only pay for a used transmission if it's higher mileage or an older vehicle when it's damaged. As for depreciation of an EV, some normal vehicles depreciate more quickly than others. I like it when a vehicle depreciates quickly if I'm buying used. By the way, you can take a car to the dealership as part of a pre purchase inspection and have them ready the condition of the battery down to the individual cell level. So you can see if the battery is good or close to failure. It's wise to have a professional check out any used vehicle anyway unless you have the wherewithal to check it yourself

 

[Darryl]

I worked as a mechanic at chevy dealer for many years. I never saw an oil pan punctured only dented once. . I never saw an engine take in water UNLESS it was driven into deep water. Maybe depends on if you live near a place you see a lot of off roading. I guess it depends on location a lot. Friend of mind moved to Alberta Canada and broken windshields are every where. She already cracked hers in 6 month their.

Granted it is a low risk for battery being dented but it is still their. No idea if insurance would pay the bill. As you know the EV battery tend to be huge and cover almost the entire underside of car. I watched a video of Chevy Bolt battery change, it was HUGE>

Another note ::: I have seen the comparison of cost of owner ship and when you ad in the resale value which is rather low on EV's plus added initial cost the ownership cost is lower with gas still. BUT hey lets see if the cost is really 30 K like that say right now, For me that would be 28 K as NY gives 2 grand off if you buy an EV. Will see.

Will it cost 30k? Probably not. But it's easy to decide for yourself whether it's worth whatever they end up charging once it's released, and we see the actual vehicle.

 

[FischAutoTechGarten]

I'm retired as well, I worked for an Oil company based in the Golf of MX... we all won't live enough to see the oil going dry...
I'll never buy an EV in the few years I have ahead to live

 

[Jarathen]

I just started paying for my own ride for the first time in 13 years, I am in no way trying to buy anything new once this is paid off.

 

[Timothyd]

I for one will be ordering one on the first day the order banks open.

I guess that like the Maverick there will be XL, XLT, Lariat versions (or whatever they will call them) and I usually don't order the barebones but one step higher.

So just guessing the MSRP price for the one level above the base will be $34,000 plus destination charge which will bring the price to around $36,000 before TT&L.

I have had a Maverick XLT Hybrid since December 2021.
MY2022: December 13, 2021 through August 28, 2023 when it was sold to Carvana.
MY2023: September 21, 2023 through present and will keep until one month before delivery of the New Ford EV Midsize Pickup when it too will be sold to Carvana or traded in whichever is the better value.

My Maverick has served it purpose just fine but I do not need it for any long trips as the wife's 2021 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid handles that just fine. I love the adaptive cruise in the RAV4 vs the standard cruise on my Maverick.

In the 23 months I have owned the 2023 Maverick I only have 9300 miles on it and that included a 2800 mile vacation in 2024.

These are the points that I feel the New Ford EV Midsize Pickup will be better long term than my current Maverick Hybrid.

Lower maintenance costs



Also no trips to the gas station

Most of my trips average about 2 miles and the longest about 25 miles round trip and as seen above I average about 10 miles a day as we are both retired.

Only charging at home at night.

I also like the feature where it can provide power to our home in case of a blackout.

With the idiots running Texas they have done nothing to alleviate the 2021 blackout from happening again and have actually increased the odds with all the Bitcoin mining farms and AI Data centers.

The New Ford EV Midsize Pickup will serve all my needs: Hauling our eBikes (trailer hitch mounted carrier) and the occasional truck bed stuff for our lawn and garden needs.

Will it have the same short bed?

 

[LSchicago]

Granted small risk but it does happen MAINLY because of the HUGE size of the battery . I watched a video of guy changing out a Chevy bolt battery It was basically almost the entire underside of the car.Were an oil pan is rather small. Not sure how tough these EV battery cases really are. A small dent and a dealer will say its toast. I had no idea about it until seeing more about it online. IHow much is this risk hard to say but its their.

Oh and FORGET about off roading with an EV . granted most wouldn't do it. That would be suicide for your battery. It is a truck after all.

I stopped off roading 30 years ago. Did not need AWD on my Hybrid either, but it had it, and it should be good at resale time.

 

[LSchicago]

Will it have the same short bed?

Should be longer, since they claim you can lock up bikes in it.

 

[Cherokee]

I remember last winter. It got rather cold and Tesla’s became quite useless all across the northern states.
That and the low resale value keeps me from even considering an EV.
Not to mention I’m not sitting for an hour or two and paying some unknown rate to charge.
I’ll pull up to a gas pump, fill up for another 450-500 miles, in five minutes.

Had a man right here in North Carolina go out on a 4 degree morning.
His EV was not going anywhere.
Soon as it warmed up a bit he drove it straight to the dealer and traded it for a hybrid.
The EV had 1500 miles on it. The dealer beat him bad on trade in. Not cool.

 

[LSchicago]

I remember last winter. It got rather cold and Tesla’s became quite useless all across the northern states.
That and the low resale value keeps me from even considering an EV.
Not to mention I’m not sitting for an hour or two and paying some unknown rate to charge.
I’ll pull up to a gas pump, fill up for another 450-500 miles, in five minutes.

Had a man right here in North Carolina go out on a 4 degree morning.
His EV was not going anywhere.
Soon as it warmed up a bit he drove it straight to the dealer and traded it for a hybrid.
The EV had 1500 miles on it. The beat him bad on trade in. Not cool.

If I bought an EV, it would be for local use. Still use a different vehicle for traveling.

 

[Cherokee]

If I bought an EV, it would be for local use. Still use a different vehicle for traveling.

That drives your transportation cost way up. A very limited use second vehicle makes no sense to me.
I’m not anti EV but needing a second vehicle because of the EV limits does not make sense to me.