Poll: Who here is interested in Buying the New Ford EV Midsize Pickup in 2027

[First Sergeant]

No natter how you cut the cake, California has energy issues. Highest rates in the nation. If they increase production, fix the grid, build more power plants, solar, wind, nuclear, whatever, it is going to cost someone. That will be the end user, the customer.
https://www.energybot.com/electricity-rates/

 

[huunvubu]

You are an exception. And if you have the generator why use an EV to power the house? And I wouldn't count on that 6 day number.

I don't count on that 6 day number.

And the reason to have an EV to power the house where I have a gas generator is for the additional capacity in case 2021 happens again here in Texas.

 

[TheSEARCH]

That's what I loved about my Chevy Volt plug in. I had, what was i guess level One charging, which was standard 120.
I come home from work plug it in.
In the morning it was ready to go with a full battery.
Every month I made my trip to Salt Lake City Utah. I never once thought about plugging the car in.

Did you really keep it at 100 percent/? Tesla and many others say to keep it at 80 percent on a regular basis for longer battery life.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

Did you really keep it at 100 percent/? Tesla and many others say to keep it at 80 percent on a regular basis for longer battery life.

Yep.
Plugged every day when I got home from work until I left in the morning.
It indicated 100% charge and 37-40 miles of range on my gen 1 and 42-52 mi of range on my Gen 2. When I was home it was plugged in.
Being so low to the ground the Volt was very uncomfortable for me to get in and out of. And it lacked an open bed.

Added info
The Gen 2 battery pack offers a higher energy capacity of 18.4 kWh, compared to the Gen 1's 16.5 kWh, leading to a significantly better electric-only range of 53 miles.
Lighter Weight:
Despite its larger capacity, the Gen 2 battery pack is lighter than the Gen 1.
Cell Design:
The Gen 2 Volt uses two cells in parallel, offering higher capacity compared to the Gen 1's design which used three cells in parallel.
Increased Energy Density:
This improved cell design contributes to a higher energy density for the battery pack.

 

[Suzukiridr14]

Lack of chargers (#), is a dealer killer.
I didn't even consider the "Price Gouging" that WILL HAPPEN"..as Charging FEEs...

Jerry

I live in Florida, and I fear the day when we have to evacuate due to storms coming, and power outages, when EV's start running out of charge, blocking all roads to safer places north. It happened before there were EV's, and they will definitely block roads while stranded for hours without moving while running A/C, radios, cell phone chargers etc.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

I live in Florida, and I fear the day when we have to evacuate due to storms coming, and power outages, when EV's start running out of charge, blocking all roads to safer places north. It happened before there were EV's, and they will definitely block roads while stranded for hours without moving while running A/C, radios, cell phone chargers etc.

Good point I would say plan for it with a couple of extra 5 gallons of non-ethanol gasoline. Then again, that only works if you're driving an ice or a plug-in hybrid with a range extending engine.

 

[1929]

I for one will be ordering one on the first day the order banks open.

I guess that like the Maverick there will be XL, XLT, Lariat versions (or whatever they will call them) and I usually don't order the barebones but one step higher.

So just guessing the MSRP price for the one level above the base will be $34,000 plus destination charge which will bring the price to around $36,000 before TT&L.

I have had a Maverick XLT Hybrid since December 2021.
MY2022: December 13, 2021 through August 28, 2023 when it was sold to Carvana.
MY2023: September 21, 2023 through present and will keep until one month before delivery of the New Ford EV Midsize Pickup when it too will be sold to Carvana or traded in whichever is the better value.

My Maverick has served it purpose just fine but I do not need it for any long trips as the wife's 2021 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid handles that just fine. I love the adaptive cruise in the RAV4 vs the standard cruise on my Maverick.

In the 23 months I have owned the 2023 Maverick I only have 9300 miles on it and that included a 2800 mile vacation in 2024.

These are the points that I feel the New Ford EV Midsize Pickup will be better long term than my current Maverick Hybrid.

Lower maintenance costs



Also no trips to the gas station

Most of my trips average about 2 miles and the longest about 25 miles round trip and as seen above I average about 10 miles a day as we are both retired.

Only charging at home at night.

I also like the feature where it can provide power to our home in case of a blackout.

With the idiots running Texas they have done nothing to alleviate the 2021 blackout from happening again and have actually increased the odds with all the Bitcoin mining farms and AI Data centers.

The New Ford EV Midsize Pickup will serve all my needs: Hauling our eBikes (trailer hitch mounted carrier) and the occasional truck bed stuff for our lawn and garden needs.

We usually keep our vehicles 10 years. We are happy with 2023 Maverick so far, no indications it won't last 10 years.

 

[scottjl]

Rates going up in Virginia also. Thanks to the "tax breaks" to data centers for AI farms central Virginia has seen a huge increase in power demand.
https://www.wric.com/news/virginia-news/dominion-energy-rate-increases/

local news segment yesterday said energy rates were going up nationwide. mostly due to greater demand for.. computer data centers, guzzling more power, mostly for cryptocurrency and ai.

so glad our rates are going up to help pay for imaginary currency ponzi schemes and chatbots.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

local news segment yesterday said energy rates were going up nationwide. mostly due to greater demand for.. computer data centers, guzzling more power, mostly for cryptocurrency and ai.

so glad our rates are going up to help pay for imaginary currency ponzi schemes and chatbots.

You're right.
Switch data centers. Big campus in Las Vegas. What kind of power does it takes to run the NSA facility in salt Lake Utah..

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[scottjl]

You're right.
Switch data centers. Big campus in Las Vegas. What kind of power does it takes to run the NSA facility in salt Lake Utah..

just another coal plant will keep it going. ignore all the sunshine that could power solar.

wonder who's going to be using ai or buying cryptocrap when the rest of us can't afford electricity?

 

[MetalThunder]

For me and my family - Besides electric costs, lack of chargers, infrastructure, fire hazard near house - EVs have too many unsolved issues not being talked about to run head long into as those adopting nations are finding out. There is NO money in recycling these toxic time bombs so till this niche segment gets its act together - I'll pass all day long - And you should too

UK faces mounting stockpile of used EV batteries

Cheers

 

[TheSEARCH]

An energy engineer did the calculations and determined the Sahara desert is the prime location for solar power production and that if we covered part of it with solar panels it would supply the world's needs.
https://tribeimpactcapital.com/impa...covered-with-solar-panels-to-power-the-world/
But there are consequences maybe even worse than coal plants to the enviroment.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-023-01117-5

Don't want to get into any huge argument BUT how LONG would it take to make all those panels. ?? . My guess a very LONG time,. Plus storage for night use would be HUGE. Plus do we have the materials needed too make miles of panels. . Then transmission and losses doing that. Then COST. Like to see a break down of all those issues.

 

[Scott Asheville]

FWIW, Autoline today, quoting Auto Forecast Solutions (an industry forecaster) says the new Maverick will come out of Hermosillo in 2028. Dunno if that's MY 2028 or CY 2028.

If they're to be trusted, Ford will have two very different small trucks come 2028. A BEV from Louisville, and an ICE/Hynbrid from Hermosillo. Personally, I'm wondering if Ford has discontinued my ecoboost model by then, in favor of going hybrid only.

https://www.autoline.tv/daily/ad-41...ew-maverick-chinas-oems-dominate-munich-show/

 

[commod0re]

The main thing holding me back from EV is I am not set up electrically to charge at home so I would have to rely on charging at work and paid charging. Did the math and it would take careful charging planning to not cost more per mile than my hybrid maverick. Best case EV might cost about 1.5 cents less per mile

if that math changes by 2027… maybe, depending on more information about the vehicle that has yet to be released. I am certainly looking forward to seeing it at least though

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

Autoline was talking about the Stellantis move and the focus is cost. The appetite for expensive trucks in the EV space vanished fast. Demand is soft in the ICE space from the sounds of it with inflation putting the brakes on things.

Ford sells 700,000+ F-series a year.
Sadly, Ford has sold only 80,000Lightnings in the last 4 years around 20,000 a year.

Stellantis/Ram has finally seen the light Canceling the Ram 1500 REV fully electric BEV.
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