Poll: Who here is interested in Buying the New Ford EV Midsize Pickup in 2027

[Darryl]

This describes a lot of people who are not retired and traveling, or traveling for work when you actually analyze your driving. That, or a surprising number of folks who never drive beyond a day trip distance.

Also have to consider that in a theoretical future where EV cost plummet, we build SMRs and invest heavily in power distribution, public charging gets better, all is well (seems like a fantasy, but for the sake of argument), a family that did take 1 big road trip a year or such could just rent a gas van and come way out ahead still.

It's amazing the number of people who could charge at home for cheap, drive well within the EVs daily range with miles to spare, and who would have adequate charging infrastructure for their ANNUAL or BIANNUAL out of town trip who would reject an EV simply because on their anticipated route fast charging costs a bit more than gasoline. For some reason they don't seem to realize that spending an extra $50.00 twice a year does NOT cancel SAVING $25 A WEEK

 

[Darryl]

To find out if you are a good candidate for an EV use Plugshare and A Better Route planner to see what the charging infrastructure looks like. If you are on the main beaten path like major highways and interstates you likely already have charging along the routes to where you want to go. Of course make sure to check your destination as well. While family and friends are willing to allow people to plug in while visiting many times it is a real pain so having local charging options once you get where you are going to avoid some of the hassle can be a real benefit. The charging infrastructure is filling in. Even Walmart is now starting to roll out charging infrastructure along with bigger players like Loves, Pilot/Flying J, and Ionna. This does not appear to be slowing down. By 2030 it should be pretty convenient for a lot of people to get a charge if they need one.

Even today id be fine with the trips I usually take. Mostly within a 300 mile radius along Interstates 10,75, 95, and the Florida turnpike. Even my rare 500 miles trips are along I75, the FLORIDA Turnpike and 195 into populated areas. I could even mooch off my Brothers, sisters, nephews and niece and get an overnight slow charge. Any trip over 500 miles usually involves air travel. And as a male age 61, my bladder is also 61. Besides I started driving when cars had 22 gallon tanks and got 15 MPG, economy cars got 25 mpg with a 13 gallon tank. And we filled up at 1/4 tank. So I didn't have a long butt time anyway even when my bladder was more capable

 

[24hrsun]

Even today id be fine with the trips I usually take. Mostly within a 300 mile radius along Interstates 10,75, 95, and the Florida turnpike. Even my rare 500 miles trips are along I75, the FLORIDA Turnpike and 195 into populated areas. I could even mooch off my Brothers, sisters, nephews and niece and get an overnight slow charge. Any trip over 500 miles usually involves air travel. And as a male age 61, my bladder is also 61. Besides I started driving when cars had 22 gallon tanks and got 15 MPG, economy cars got 25 mpg with a 13 gallon tank. And we filled up at 1/4 tank. So I didn't have a long butt time anyway even when my bladder was more capable

You might check Alibaba for a new bladder... LOL There is still a big difference between stopping for a bio break and leaving vs stopping for a charge. Those stops add up. However in your case the description of your travel is what I would classify as regional and typically not a huge problem for todays longer range EVs. Just bake in the extra time for the couple of stops each way which isn't terrible. Also you appear to be staying on the beaten path so it is pretty easy. It gets a little more challenging if you venture off the beaten path into the EV deserts. But generally still doable as long as you factor in the time and route needed to make the trip happen. You would be a good candidate for an EV.

 

[Darryl]

You might check Alibaba for a new bladder... LOL There is still a big difference between stopping for a bio break and leaving vs stopping for a charge. Those stops add up. However in your case the description of your travel is what I would classify as regional and typically not a huge problem for todays longer range EVs. Just bake in the extra time for the couple of stops each way which isn't terrible. Also you appear to be staying on the beaten path so it is pretty easy. It gets a little more challenging if you venture off the beaten path into the EV deserts. But generally still doable as long as you factor in the time and route needed to make the trip happen. You would be a good candidate for an EV.

I think I would. Typically my 200 mile bio break consists of bio, a snack from a vending machine or fast food, and a stretch. Probably 15 minutes. Probably Not enough for a 20-80 charge. But probably enough for the last leg with extra cushion for the 300 mile trip. Or enough until the next Bio break on a longer trip. I could see it costing me some time. But if I have passengers, usually a couple of sisters and my 94 year old mother. I might not lose any time

 

[zen_]

It's amazing the number of people who could charge at home for cheap, drive well within the EVs daily range with miles to spare, and who would have adequate charging infrastructure for their ANNUAL or BIANNUAL out of town trip who would reject an EV simply because on their anticipated route fast charging costs a bit more than gasoline. For some reason they don't seem to realize that spending an extra $50.00 twice a year does NOT cancel SAVING $25 A WEEK

The number of people that don't understand basic accounting or personal finance is pretty staggering.

To be sure though, a fair amount of the anti-EV sentiment is because the combustion engine and cars have been integral part of American culture since the 1920s, and I think a lot of people are just afraid of them becoming a soulless appliance that they can't do much on besides fill up the washer fluid. I would argue we're already there, and it's probably a good thing since most people do a terrible job maintaining current vehicles, though. We also need really cheap EVs to stave off a transportation crisis, or we're going to see a lot more Alibaba e-bikes and scooters (with no registration and insurance) clogging our roads, or anything else they can move on (greenways, sidewalks, probably backyards and such).

 

[Darryl]

The number of people that don't understand basic accounting or personal finance is pretty staggering.

To be sure though, a fair amount of the anti-EV sentiment is because the combustion engine and cars have been integral part of American culture since the 1920s, and I think a lot of people are just afraid of them becoming a soulless appliance that they can't do much on besides fill up the washer fluid. I would argue we're already there, and it's probably a good thing since most people do a terrible job maintaining current vehicles, though. We also need really cheap EVs to stave off a transportation crisis, or we're going to see a lot more Alibaba e-bikes and scooters (with no registration and insurance) clogging our roads, or anything else they can move on (greenways, sidewalks, probably backyards and such).

Once most vehicles became v6 and 4cyls. The sound was not worth listening to anyway since I grew up during the v8 era. I like driving a manual from time to time, but not every day especially with my prosthetic leg. I can get an old ranger or import subcompact for an occasional manual experience. But I'm 61 now. Moving in silence has an appeal to it. Most who currently reject EV either. 1. are sentimental for the IC experience and are uncomfortable with change. 2. Live a lifestyle where the current system is a bad fit. 3. Are apprehensive because of misinformation. 4. Are flat out anti EV and have a problem for every solution.

 

[zen_]

Except locally they announced big cost increases due to the number.data centers being built to take advantage of the "cheap electricity".

This is definitely an issue that can't be ignored, but the massive power consumption of data centers will probably at least force the issue that our base load capacity and grid can't be fixed with patchwork, band-aid solutions anymore. Having most households with 1 or 2 giant batteries parked in their garage will actually be part of solution.

 

[Darryl]

This is definitely an issue that can't be ignored, but the massive power consumption of data centers will probably at least force the issue that our base load capacity and grid can't be fixed with patchwork, band-aid solutions anymore. Having most households with 1 or 2 giant batteries parked in their garage will actually be part of solution.

These data centers should be in isolated areas and required to at least partially produce some of their own power. If they're in isolated areas, they can build solar to at least power themselves during the day. I think the Bitcoin "mining" uses tremendous amounts of power. I was listening to the radio where it was said that some would possibly rectivate some of the decommissioned nuclear power plants in order to provide their own power. That's just how much power these places consume

 

[TheSEARCH]

It's amazing the number of people who could charge at home for cheap, drive well within the EVs daily range with miles to spare, and who would have adequate charging infrastructure for their ANNUAL or BIANNUAL out of town trip who would reject an EV simply because on their anticipated route fast charging costs a bit more than gasoline. For some reason they don't seem to realize that spending an extra $50.00 twice a year does NOT cancel SAVING $25 A WEEK

There are many added cost to an EV you are ignoring. I wont get into them all. I suggest you look into it. Plus there is risk. I know of a driver who hit some road debris and toasted his battery. Talk about added cost.

 

[24hrsun]

I think I would. Typically my 200 mile bio break consists of bio, a snack from a vending machine or fast food, and a stretch. Probably 15 minutes. Probably Not enough for a 20-80 charge. But probably enough for the last leg with extra cushion for the 300 mile trip. Or enough until the next Bio break on a longer trip. I could see it costing me some time. But if I have passengers, usually a couple of sisters and my 94 year old mother. I might not lose any time

I think depending on which EV you choose the typical charging cadence on the road trips is usually around 120-150 miles between stops. So there are more stops than your typical ICE trip, but not uncomfortable at all. I tend to prefer in the ICE to go longer before my bio breaks than that, but since you are going to be regional you won't have to make a lot of stops. That makes it quite manageable.

 

[zen_]

There are many added cost to an EV you are ignoring. I wont get into them all. I suggest you look into it. Plus there is risk. I know of a driver who hit some road debris and toasted his battery. Talk about added cost.

There's a risk owning any vehicle. You could drive through a puddle the wrong way and ingest water into the motor causing a catastrophic hydrolock. It's happened, but a terrible argument against owning a vehicle with a combustion engine.

 

[TheSEARCH]

There's a risk owning any vehicle. You could drive through a puddle the wrong way and ingest water into the motor causing a catastrophic hydrolock. It's happened, but a terrible argument against owning a vehicle with a combustion engine.

Going to disagree with that puddle statement. More like dumb driver trying to go through DEEP water, puddle NO WAY. . BUT there are many videos on youtube with road debris damaging battery on underside of EV car. If its dented is all it takes. So the risk is far greater on a EV than you believe .

 

[zen_]

Going to disagree with that puddle statement. More like dumb driver trying to go through DEEP water, puddle NO WAY. . BUT there are many videos on youtube with road debris damaging battery on underside of EV car. If its dented is all it takes. So the risk is far greater on a EV than you believe .

It's just an anecdotal comparison, but I actually have heard first hand of an engine being hydrolocked from a puddle drive through (cold air intake, river fording, I don't know).

You do realize that most ICE vehicles also have an oil pan and transmission exposed to the underside that could be damaged by the same force that would dent an EV battery, and yet it's something no one ever thinks about unless they actually do extreme off-roading? Your vehicle also has an EV battery bolted on to the bottom that is protected by the metal casing, a metal bar, and a splash guard.

It's not really an engineering challenge to protect a battery sufficiently for normal driving at any rate. My only real safety concerns are the weight of monster EVs like the cybertruck on the road in collisions /w normal vehicles or pedestrians, which is being improved with vehicles like this new Ford pickup that isn't going to have massive battery. I also worry somewhat about the long term reliability of vehicles as they age if owners start doing backyard fixes to bypass faulty battery control modules, or other fault states that increase the risk of battery fires (an actual safety concern).

 

[First Sergeant]

Too many issues for me to consider total electric. Doesn't fit my lifestyle. Travel frequently around the country to visit kids/grandkids/great-grandkids and numerous relatives, in-laws and outlaws. We take the motorhome and stay in RV parks for most of these trips (less than 300) miles) and sometimes even for shorter trips and the total costs make it a wash, cost wise. Now some states are charging per mile costs for EV's and plug-ins. I'm pretty sure not too long before regular Hybrids will be included. Not sure how the gub-mint will be able to tell how many miles are on electric vs ICE? Old saying, "if you want things to get screwed up, get a politician, if you want things to get REALLY screwed up, get a politician. I would think the only equitable way to get the tax dollars from our pockets would be by registrations, not miles. Can one imagine several long trips a year to the east coast and back to the west? Expensive trips. Interesting article from the Oregon folks just across my border:

https://www.opb.org/article/2025/08...s-cars-evs-rebate-environment-transportation/

I will get out my popcorn and sit down in my lazy boy. The sparks are gonna fly!

 

[Glen Baker LLC]